- Introduction

- Sponsors, Comments, and Reflections

- Left-wing vs right-wing politics

- Political leaders on the left and the right

- Internal political divisions

- AOC

- Political realignment

- Supply-side progressivism

- Wealth redistribution

- Housing problem

- Regulation and deregulation

- DOGE, Elon, and Trump

- Sam Harris

- Future of America

Ezra Klein is one of the most influential voices representing the left-wing of American politics. He is a columnist for the NY Times and host of The Ezra Klein Show. Derek Thompson is a writer at The Atlantic and host of the Plain English podcast. Together they have written a new book titled Abundance that lays out a set of ideas for the future of the Democratic party.
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Ezra's YouTube: https://youtube.com/EzraKleinShow
The New York Times: https://nytimes.com/by/ezra-klein
Derek's X: https://x.com/dkthomp
Plain English (podcast): https://www.theringer.com/podcasts/plain-english-with-derek-thompson
The Atlantic: https://theatlantic.com/author/derek-thompson/

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OUTLINE:
(00:00) - Introduction
(03:17) - Sponsors, Comments, and Reflections
(10:33) - Left-wing vs right-wing politics
(19:54) - Political leaders on the left and the right
(44:29) - Internal political divisions
(47:29) - AOC
(58:50) - Political realignment
(1:10:32) - Supply-side progressivism
(1:17:42) - Wealth redistribution
(1:27:50) - Housing problem
(1:44:09) - Regulation and deregulation
(2:00:43) - DOGE, Elon, and Trump
(2:59:46) - Sam Harris
(3:09:24) - Future of America

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Ezra Klein is one of the most influential voices representing the left-wing of American politics. He is a columnist for the NY Times and host of The Ezra Klein Show. Derek Thompson is a writer at The Atlantic and host of the Plain English podcast.

Ezra Klein is one of the most influential voices representing the left-wing of American politics. He is a columnist for the NY Times and host of The Ezra Klein Show. Derek Thompson is a writer at The Atlantic and host of the Plain English podcast. Together they have written a new book titled Abundance that lays out a set of ideas for the future of the Democratic party. 
Thank you for listening ❤ Check out our sponsors: https://lexfridman.com/sponsors/ep462-sc 
See below for timestamps, transcript, and to give feedback, submit questions, contact Lex, etc. 
 
Transcript: 
https://lexfridman.com/ezra-klein-and-derek-thompson-transcript 
 
CONTACT LEX: 
Feedback - give feedback to Lex: https://lexfridman.com/survey 
AMA - submit questions, videos or call-in: https://lexfridman.com/ama 
Hiring - join our team: https://lexfridman.com/hiring 
Other - other ways to get in touch: https://lexfridman.com/contact 
 
EPISODE LINKS: 
Abundance (new book): https://amzn.to/4iZ1S8J 
Ezra's X: https://x.com/ezraklein/ 
Ezra's Instagram: https://instagram.com/ezraklein 
Ezra's YouTube: https://youtube.com/EzraKleinShow 
The New York Times: https://nytimes.com/by/ezra-klein 
Derek's X: https://x.com/dkthomp 
Plain English (podcast): https://www.theringer.com/podcasts/plain-english-with-derek-thompson 
The Atlantic: https://theatlantic.com/author/derek-thompson/ 
 
SPONSORS: 
To support this podcast, check out our sponsors &amp; get discounts: 
Call of Duty: First-person shooter video game. 
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LMNT: Zero-sugar electrolyte drink mix. 
Go to https://drinkLMNT.com/lex 
AG1: All-in-one daily nutrition drinks. 
Go to https://drinkag1.com/lex 
Shopify: Sell stuff online. 
Go to https://shopify.com/lex 
 
OUTLINE: 
(00:00) - Introduction 
(03:17) - Sponsors, Comments, and Reflections 
(10:33) - Left-wing vs right-wing politics 
(19:54) - Political leaders on the left and the right 
(44:29) - Internal political divisions 
(47:29) - AOC 
(58:50) - Political realignment 
(1:10:32) - Supply-side progressivism 
(1:17:42) - Wealth redistribution 
(1:27:50) - Housing problem 
(1:44:09) - Regulation and deregulation 
(2:00:43) - DOGE, Elon, and Trump 
(2:59:46) - Sam Harris 
(3:09:24) - Future of America 
 
PODCAST LINKS: 
- Podcast Website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast 
- Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr 
- Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 
- RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ 
- Podcast Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrAXtmErZgOdP_8GztsuKi9nrraNbKKp4 
- Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/lexclips

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#462 – Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson: Politics, Trump, AOC, Elon & DOGE